tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post8672659981496680244..comments2024-02-14T19:05:38.367+08:00Comments on ~ Xweing Away ~: The Fight is on, yet we are still sleeping...Xweinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09741656310584045254noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-83322135612614528832007-11-15T19:32:00.000+08:002007-11-15T19:32:00.000+08:00Amazingly written :) And Mira, I like your point! ...Amazingly written :) <BR/>And Mira, I like your point! But xweing, I couldn't disagree with u. <BR/>I'd say, it's all up to the individual how he/she wants to fill up any darn forms :pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-39461103202341503112007-11-14T08:19:00.000+08:002007-11-14T08:19:00.000+08:00Weixuan,You could be right. But I didn't misunders...Weixuan,<BR/><BR/>You could be right. <BR/><BR/>But I didn't misunderstand anything, though. I think you missed my point.<BR/><BR/>As a matter of fact, if you are getting unfair services because the information that you provided are being used against you, then you have solid reasons to back your claims that you are being discriminated.<BR/><BR/>But if you put in "Irrelevant", yet you are still being discriminated anyway, what do you have left to back your claims with?<BR/><BR/>It's not just for the sake of census. Please think of the bigger picture. In any case, we agree to disagree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-16695800805965795822007-11-14T02:32:00.000+08:002007-11-14T02:32:00.000+08:00nice post, xweing. dr. stan, I think the stand her...nice post, xweing. <BR/><BR/>dr. stan, <BR/><BR/>I think the stand here is for us to go to vote, not who we vote (as long as we believe in whoever we do decide to vote).<BR/><BR/>mira,<BR/><BR/>I think you misunderstood the core of this project Irrelevent.<BR/><BR/>I mean, why on earth do I need to provide my religion/race for a warranty form/work application/phone line application? Is different services going to be provided based on that information? Am I getting two years warranty instead of three if I'm a Malay/Christian? As you can see, it is quite irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>sex/race/religion in general census is a whole different issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-63892127895920364952007-11-13T23:32:00.000+08:002007-11-13T23:32:00.000+08:00I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.I agree with the...I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the whole "Bangsa Malaysia" sentiment. But to do away with information fields "gender, ethnicity, religion" is akin to erasing your identity. I understand that the aim of Project Irrelevant is to deal with discrimination. But why do we need to sacrifice our identity absolutely?<BR/><BR/>The human race is made up of diversity. We are different from one another because that is who we are. This shouldn't be the creed to support "anti-discriminatory" stance. With or without filling in those fields, people will still discriminate each other.<BR/><BR/>What should be the point of address is the discrimination itself. By rejecting the importance of the information, you are allowing discrimination to thrive. Look at it in a different perspective. You want to fight for equal rights - insist on equal rights for your identity, not by hiding them. You're right - religion is a personal choice. So insist on it. Be proud of it.<BR/><BR/>There are many reasons why information such as "gender, ethnicity, religion" need to be included. Because at the end of the day, you need to insist on fairness and equality. You need to be politically-correct. Details like these are important for identification. Even in the UK, a population made up of a mix of ethnicities, ranging from the Caucasians to blacks to Asian-Indians to British-Indians to Anglo-Chinese and etc... we still need to fill in the "gender, ethnicity, religion" fields when we apply for jobs, fill in our National Insurance Number forms, bank forms and such. Because over here, they are trying to discourage discrimination at workplaces, education centres and etc. They take into account everyone's different cultural background. Not everybody's religion allow certain medical procedures to take place. Also, in events such as death, these details help support the identification process. It also helps nailing down crimes such as identity-thefts or bank frauds.<BR/><BR/>Project Irrelevant should focus on making discrimination irrelevant in a society, not making a person's identity irrelevant through and through.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-88517544526505699102007-11-13T17:34:00.000+08:002007-11-13T17:34:00.000+08:00yslim, i can understand from ur pov that v need to...yslim, i can understand from ur pov that v need to know the race in the face of crime. something like csi. "suspected homicide. white eurasian male in his 40s."<BR/><BR/>but religion is a personal choice. do v need 2 know whether the fella is a christian, buddhist, muslim, scientologist to commit the crime? <BR/><BR/>and neither do we need those kind of statistic in our SPM form, JPA form, drivers license, appliance warranty form, election form... ETC ETC ETCXweinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741656310584045254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-90777278149357164492007-11-13T16:22:00.000+08:002007-11-13T16:22:00.000+08:00im gonna vote BNim gonna vote BNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-19562555286602323742007-11-13T14:40:00.000+08:002007-11-13T14:40:00.000+08:00It's time for us to walk the talk, people.If you h...It's time for us to walk the talk, people.<BR/><BR/>If you haven't registered as a voter, do it as soon as possible, exercise your democracy rights, otherwise, stop complaining as we've too much of losers around us.<BR/><BR/>As for the project irrelevant, the next time you fill in ANY form, put in IRRELEVANT for BANGSA and AGAMA. If you're compelled to state yours, you may want to get them to mention to you which part of our constitutional that mention about the BANGSA and AGAMA.<BR/><BR/>Stand firm on what you believe in, after-all, if we're not going to save this country, who will? Or are you expecting others to do the favor on your behalf?<BR/><BR/>That's loser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-12870064928927848062007-11-13T11:41:00.000+08:002007-11-13T11:41:00.000+08:00in malaysia, we stated religion and race in order ...in malaysia, we stated religion and race in order to clarify more details...<BR/><BR/>if you look at the statistic of crime, for sure it stated how many people in this race involved in this crime and etc...<BR/><BR/>as the citizen wish to know it.<BR/><BR/>some countries doesnt implemented it is because they are majority from the same race or religion,<BR/>it doesnt have any need to differenciate the race.YSLimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05552327340144998581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-14972725063518792022007-11-13T10:01:00.000+08:002007-11-13T10:01:00.000+08:00i did the passport system for Nigeria ,Senegal,Cam...i did the passport system for Nigeria ,Senegal,Cambodia and etc.<BR/><BR/>None of it required to state "Religion" and "Race" in their system.<BR/><BR/>How come Malaysia as a country more developed than them required such thing ? <BR/><BR/>I really agree with the Irrelevant Project ~!家勤https://www.blogger.com/profile/00763016925220384757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-60320025849739838812007-11-12T23:05:00.000+08:002007-11-12T23:05:00.000+08:00panjangnya post ni...panjangnya post ni...pik layhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07878197957192260074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-25278618509978736732007-11-12T22:38:00.000+08:002007-11-12T22:38:00.000+08:00Yeap, somebody from the floor asked but DSAI dodge...Yeap, somebody from the floor asked but DSAI dodged the question.Xweinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741656310584045254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14744486.post-23366732038009739682007-11-12T20:49:00.000+08:002007-11-12T20:49:00.000+08:00do u ask DSAI what is his alternative???do u ask DSAI what is his alternative???Chen Jie@陈杰https://www.blogger.com/profile/02141177506100218528noreply@blogger.com